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Thanks Samira for getting the ball rolling on different topics for classes for Pennsic! I would like to know who is planning to teach what kind of class, so I can contribute something useful and unique to my fellow dancers.
Thanks!
~Majda
Thanks!
~Majda
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Re: So who is submitting what kind of class for Pennsic?
Thu, March 26, 2009 - 5:21 AMHmmmmm. I've never actually submitted anything for PennSIC before, but I've been wanting to rework my workshop on arms, lines, and extension. Maybe PennSIC would be a good place for a trial run.
Would people be interested in that as a topic? I think I can say I'm definitely going to PennSIC this year... -
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Re: So who is submitting what kind of class for Pennsic?
Mon, March 30, 2009 - 11:06 AMI will be teaching a class with Bambi/Khalilah. Probably in two, two hour sessions. It will be an original choreography to period rhythms based on moves in period art. It will have a hand out.
I'm going to do morning stretches in my camp on the Serenghetti.
I am toying on which A&S classes to teach -
Early Islamic Garb
East/West textiles - exchange of styles and technology in textiles, mostly silk.
East/West block printing on textiles
Natural dye class
Tiraz in history and in the SCA
???OTHERS????
So any feed back on what folks find interesting, let me know.
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Re: So who is submitting what kind of class for Pennsic?
Mon, March 30, 2009 - 5:50 PMUhm.... Yes, [lease to any of the ones you have already listed. :)
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Re: So who is submitting what kind of class for Pennsic?
Thu, March 26, 2009 - 5:28 AMSomebody please say they're teaching some folkloric dances -
Sadika & I are still gathering performers for the brand new "Folkloric Dance Show" at Pennsic this year. We're bringing "folky" back! -
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Re: So who is submitting what kind of class for Pennsic?
Thu, March 26, 2009 - 5:51 AMI might teach a Saiidi class. I know Majida did last year though, so I'm kind of waiting for her plan. Guess that's the good thing about being the scheduler... I can see where the "holes" are.
Right now the only folkloric is Carla's Guedra class. I'd love to see more folkloric at Pennsic! Line dances would be great too. There's a drills class, a layering class, and two sword classes by the same teacher (one is technique, the other is a choreography). Everything else that has been submitted is drum and music. -
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Re: So who is submitting what kind of class for Pennsic?
Thu, March 26, 2009 - 7:17 AMI will be submitting for classes Monday, I hope.
Drum solo: techniques, shimmies and combos. Definitely.
Carmine and I are teaching a dancers and musician class.
I want to teach another- maybe a musicality oriented class for just dancers. This would be my first pick- and would touch upon both instrumentation AS WELL AS responding to different folkloric rhythms typically found in Orientals...so in a way would include "folkloric sampler" because Khaleeji, Saidi and masmoudi saghir (aka beladi) will be in there.
I'm working on Egyptian style zills- very different from both Turkish style and American style. We took two privates in Egypt with a top sagat player in Cairo. Yasmin has been doing intensive research on Ghawazee playing and the playing during Napoleon's travels in to Egypt. This process involves passing a test from Yasmin (DC) though...and the test isn't until June. So I can't plan that yet.
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Re: So who is submitting what kind of class for Pennsic?
Thu, March 26, 2009 - 4:21 PMlast year I taught three...
one was a begginers/beyond basics. It was basically geared to anyone that had taken a beginners class and knew some moves but not nessicarily what how to put them together.
another was a baby beginner sword. from choosing a sword to starting to work with it. pretty much just the basics for anyone that had any interest in sword-work. but you do have two sword classes already which makes me hesitate to submit this one.
the other was a fast/slow combos class.
Obviously nothing strictly period last year from me. but I was thinking repeating at least one of these as all of them went over really well with the people that came. Gonna see what kinda folkloric stuff I have notes for and think about something that way but until then, would anyone have interest/feedback on seeing any of these next year?
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Mon, March 30, 2009 - 7:03 PMChristina,
Go ahead and do a Saiidi class, I don't know if I will be able to teach this year...still working out scheduling issues...hope I'll be able to make it the second week... -
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Re: So who is submitting what kind of class for Pennsic?
Mon, March 30, 2009 - 8:00 PMThanks for letting me know. I was starting to think there'd be room enough at Pennsic for two Saiidi classes, so if you find out you can still do it, just say the word! We can possibly coordinate to make sure we're not covering all the same stuff.
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Wed, April 1, 2009 - 9:54 AMI would love to be able to do that, but I really wont know until past the deadline...damn professors! -
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Wed, April 22, 2009 - 6:35 AMIt's official.. Blue Lotus Tribe will be teaching a three-part Saiidi class, including dancing with a stick or cane. -
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Wed, April 22, 2009 - 7:18 AMAWESOME! I cant wait to take these!
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Tue, April 28, 2009 - 7:22 AMyay yay yay, BLtribe! I'll be with you in spirit :-)
Will there be a Haberci this year again, whoever does that (think it's you?) -
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Re: So who is submitting what kind of class for Pennsic?
Tue, April 28, 2009 - 8:31 AMThere will indeed be a Haberci :-) Trying to work it out that we can put slightly longer class listings in it than will be allowed in the official publications (since I know people are having a hard time with the new space limitations).
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Re: So who is submitting what kind of class for Pennsic?
Thu, March 26, 2009 - 7:48 AMWell, since I've been a Lazy Bum in Every Other way, this year...
...I'm thinkin' 'bout a set of Period Raqs/"Bellydance" Classes. This would be "one-stop shopping" for reworking your clothes, your moves,and your persona into period stuff, based on this research I did some years ago:
apostate.raqsstorm.org/2003/1...-m.html
apostate.raqsstorm.org/2003/1...-1.html
Plus more stuff I've had floating around, but not a chance to read and process into new articles.
My instinct is to bore everyone with 3-4 hours of it; 1 hr on just history of the dance in SCA period/persona, another hour on clothes, and 2 hr. on taking your dance and making it "more period.' I'd also likely break it up into multiple days...
...and yes, the "boring" part is a joke. :) But I am curious -- who'd find this of interest? Any other ways I could make something like this work for folks? Is it too much?
If you want to see a taste of my clothes-teaching style, here's a 5 min. video of me doing just that:
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Thu, March 26, 2009 - 7:50 AMOh! I should add that most of the "period dance" stuff will be Ottoman-based, as that's what we have (by FAR) the most information about.
Unless I can get a handle on some of the apparently-written information on dance from the 'Abbasid era, that is...
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Re: So who is submitting what kind of class for Pennsic?
Sat, March 28, 2009 - 7:26 AMomg! or at least, partially omg! Ottoman's cool but are you including Egypt/North Africa too since it's Ottoman in period? That's a great video just a little hard to hear what you're saying (I'm sure you did not say "underpanties" but that's what it sounded like at 3.00 in, LOL)
I remember a good garb class with Seahbac & some other lady a few years ago too, but they didn't go into dancing.
These types of "listen & learn" classes are excellent during the hottest parts of the day - when just getting to class works up a sweat - -
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Re: So who is submitting what kind of class for Pennsic?
Mon, March 30, 2009 - 12:53 PMI think that "other lady" was me :) Seabach & I taught a garb class- it was maybe 5ish years ago :) But I don't think she's taught another one since... It's nice you remember ;) I've done lots more reseach since then- here's a great link- It's the Turkish Ministry of Culture and Tourism giving thier opinion of Ottoman garb and critique famous paintings/minitatures. LOTS of info- a lot to read but soooo worth it!!!!!
www.kultur.gov.tr/EN/BelgeGoster.aspx
I do love seeing everyone else's reseach! And you're right the hot afternoon's can be good for that- too hot for much else but hopefull your brain hasn't melted!! At least pretty pictures of costumes can hold my ADHD brain's attention ;)-
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Tue, April 7, 2009 - 6:56 AMOh, good to know - thanks for the class. I remember because I go up top for classes very infrequently :-)
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Re: So who is submitting what kind of class for Pennsic?
Wed, April 1, 2009 - 8:22 PM"are you including Egypt/North Africa too since it's Ottoman in period?"
Unless there's a treasure trove I'm missing, there's little information on dance in that area; what there is, is mostly Andulusian, which is...different. Most of the really interesting stuff comes out of either the Baghdad region during the 'Abbasid era, or the Persia/Ottoman contexts of late period.
Sorry about the sound; that was an experiment at just trying to tape a class, more than a serious "watch this and learn!" thing. Hopefully I can do more along those lines at upcoming events... -
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Tue, April 7, 2009 - 6:54 AMboogers! I'm thinking, if Asim can't find it, it ain't there.
I wonder how one calculates how appropriate extrapolation is - before it gets into the realm of wishful thinking.
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Re: So who is submitting what kind of class for Pennsic?
Wed, April 15, 2009 - 7:53 AMAny chance getting an Andulusian class? I've fallen in love with some of the music and I'd love to take a look at what sorts of moves and garb are period appropriate for the music. -
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Re: So who is submitting what kind of class for Pennsic?
Wed, April 15, 2009 - 10:52 AMI don't know enough about it to teach a real hour-long class about the dance or the music, sadly. I know some others have done research, and I'll see if they are a) going to Pennsic, and b) able to instruct on this.
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Re: So who is submitting what kind of class for Pennsic?
Mon, March 30, 2009 - 12:27 PMNOT BORING!!! I LOVE your idea for a more period dancing class!!! I would totally come! I just taught a similar class at Dun Carriag's A Day In the Middle East- a lot dance stuff from Laurel Victoria Grey & Artemis' research (so glad they are local to me!!!) and from other places. The folks who attended said the info I gave on costuming for period dancing was helpful. I can't wait to see what you teach!
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Tue, March 31, 2009 - 8:05 AMThat sounds like a very good class. I'd attend it.
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Tue, March 31, 2009 - 8:07 AMsounds good..I'd go to it
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Wed, April 1, 2009 - 1:05 PMI'd love to see this class take place.
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Thu, March 26, 2009 - 12:38 PMOk I'll do my Saiidi Classes again, maybe make it more general to Egyptian Folkloric classes to talk about Fellahi, Beledi, Saiidi, Hagallah, etc...maybe a 2 part series...would that work? An Egyptian folkloric sampler, I've had some exposure to all things Egyptian since last year :)
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Thu, March 26, 2009 - 12:40 PMI know Camille did a folkloric footwork class 2 years ago, I'd looove to see that again!
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Mon, March 30, 2009 - 6:47 AMI guess I could teach a basic Tunisian class to fit into the folky theme. I say basic because even after just 20 minutes of hip twists everyone will be suffering from side stitches.
Always planning on teaching zill drill...I only saw one dancer at Gulf Wars take up my challenge from Pennsic to at least always go out on the floor with zills, don't even have to play them, but at least always carry them around and have them available to use- good job Cat! And there were two other great zillers at GW, Bran and Pacita, what a joy to play with them!
... until I see zills used just as much as hip scarves I will always teach Zill Drill
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Re: So who is submitting what kind of class for Pennsic?
Mon, March 30, 2009 - 12:47 PMI'm teach a class on Turkish Dance- based alot from my trip to Turkey a few years ago (and *maybe* another trip this summer) + from Artemis & Tayyar. Rom & Folk stuff that could segway into SCA dancing nicely as well as into cabaret or the zillions of other styles. 9/8 footwork, dance moves, Turkish "attitude" in dancing, maybe a few gestures, talking about skirt dancing... I hope it will be fun ;)
Melissa (of Ishtar) & I are also teaching The Art of Melodic Taksims for Musicians and Dancers.
This will be a 2 hr class (totally worth the 2hrs!!!) where musicians and dancers will learn about taksims (structure of taksims/ dance steps, & more) and then musicians and dancers will work together playing & dancing for each other. Melissa & I will give & collect feedaback, there will be discussion & more practicing together. Melissa will teach a taksim class for musicians the day before so this class will focus on the importance of dancers & musicians working together- playing off each other for that uber awesome performance taksim :)
We're really excited about this class! Taksims can be scarey but they can also be amazing. We're hoping lots of musicians will come and we're hoping to target intermediate (or more exp) dancers so we can really add to your dancing & peformance skills. -
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Mon, March 30, 2009 - 2:29 PMI am so up for both of these classes Zarifa! -
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Mon, March 30, 2009 - 3:54 PMi will do a sword class although i do not know what kind yet....
and i was thinking a choreo combos to use for improv as per rhythm class maybe... that sound interesting? -
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Mon, March 30, 2009 - 8:02 PMI'm not trying to dissuade you from sword, but there are already three sword class submissions scheduled. Go for it if that's what you want to teach, but if you want to offer something unique, this may not be the year to offer sword. ;-) -
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Tue, March 31, 2009 - 7:24 AMgood to know- last year I did dancing with a curved blade... and talked about how martial arms use of a curved weapon can and should be utilized within the dance.... it was a dance class although i thought of making it a sit down historical class.... are any of the other sword classes non-dance? -
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Re: So who is submitting what kind of class for Pennsic?
Tue, March 31, 2009 - 7:53 AMSo far there are no other non-dance sword classes so I'm sure that your historical class would generate a lot of interest. You could still hold it in the dance/music tent in case you do want to do some demonstration or basic moves.
The other sword classes being offered so far are basic swordwork, choreography to Aziza (same teacher), and one that focuses on solo and troupe sword combinations.
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Re: So who is submitting what kind of class for Pennsic?
Fri, April 10, 2009 - 3:12 PMI would love to teach veil tricks again, but if we're going for historic accuracy, that's not the one to go for. Otherwise, I'd likely go for Intermediate combos. Thoughts?
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Re: So who is submitting what kind of class for Pennsic?
Wed, April 22, 2009 - 6:31 AMI submitted the dance class with Bambi and a regular book class. I was thinking about the stretching class, "Stretching on the Serenghetti" but a bit worried about over comitting.
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Wed, April 22, 2009 - 8:13 PMI've submitted a Folk Dancing class. -
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Fri, April 24, 2009 - 7:13 PMI am not submitting a class for Pennsic, but will gladly help out those who are. :)
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Fri, April 24, 2009 - 9:15 PMWoo Hoo! Boy do I have Pennsic on the brain :)
I'll be teaching Turkish Romani 9/8, Intermediate dance, and a (non-period but great for improving your grace skills) fanveils class.
BTW, I'm hosting a singing/music/storytelling/dance jam every night at Pennsic in my camp from 8:30-9:30ish if anyone is interested in stopping by. We're The Caravanserai in The Crown Province of Ostgardr in E04 :D We'll be there every night except midnight madness!
I'm so glad to hear Carla is doing the guedra gathering again. It's one of my favorite things of the year...and I always just chant!
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Re: So who is submitting what kind of class for Pennsic?
Sat, April 25, 2009 - 11:46 AMI'll be teaching a musicality class that will touch on different rhythm/folk dance connections (in the context of entrance music) and also a drum solo technique and combination class (at least we know those goblet shaped drums were period!).
Carmine and I will be teaching a class (twice) for dancers and musicians together. :D -
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Re: So who is submitting what kind of class for Pennsic?
Tue, May 5, 2009 - 12:14 PMI'm going to keep my fingers crossed that at least one of those classes for dancers and musicians together happen when there isn't a battle going on.... My husband drums for me, but he also fights!
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